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The Apostolic Fathers: Greek Texts and English Translations
P**N
Great Volume!
This book is an essential reference for those interested in apostolic writings. The material is available elsewhere but I purchased this volume for several important reasons:1. It is one of the only diglot versions - in the original Greek plus (a very good) English translations - good for checking the translation2. It provides another point of view (a much more modern and balanced one) about the origin and provenance of the various documents in the extensive introductions and notes to each author and their associated documents3. The Greek is koine Greek almost the same as the NT koine Greek and good for practicing with a text outside the NT4. Most existing translations are rather dated and stilted. The translation here are up-to-date and accurate5. Better researched texts are used than the Cleveland-Coxe versions giving a good counter-balance to those venerable volumesThe book binding is very sturdy; the book lies flat on the table; it is a good convenient size and a highly legible font/print. The documents included are:* 1 Clement* 2 Clement* 7 Letters of Ignatius: Ephesians, Magnesians, Trallians, Romans, Philadelphians, Smyrneans, Polycarp* Letter of Polycarp to Philipians* Martyrdom of Polycarp* The Didache* Epistle of Barnabas* Shepherd of hermas* Epistle to Diognetus and the fragment of Quadratus* Fragments of PapiasStrongly recommended.
M**7
Well worth the money.
I have yet to finish 1 Clement - but I can see why it was considered by many in the early church to be scripture. It's that good. The translation is excellent, and for those with knowledge of the original Greek, that's on the page opposite to the English translation. My main regret is not reading 1 Clement sooner. I tell you that to say that my primary interest in purchasing this was for a better copy of Ignatius. The entire book is a careful work.The physical properties of the 9" hardbound book are also pleasing: a very dark green with gold lettering. It feels of a quality where I would have expected a ribbon bookmark to be included and am minorly disappointed it doesn't have one.In short, if you're considering purchasing this book and don't have a good translation (or any translation!) of these Apostolic Fathers, this is an excellent one to go with. The missives by these early Christian leaders is of great interest in giving us insight into the very early church.
S**S
A Great Book Made Better!!!
First the overall content: The Greek on one page and English on the other is very nice. The flow of the English is very nicely done. The notes are helpful for both the Greek and the English texts. These writings (inspired or not) are very insightful to the Christian faith. If nothing else, it is practice applied and good advice from a time that is far gone but still with us today. Read it and you'll understand what I mean.The Third Edition:I have a second edition paperback print and was very happy to discover this hard covered edition. The chapter-verse style layout is improved and the pages are bible thin so it sits open easily.
T**E
important
I dislike that pratues ~ meekness is translated as gentleness. A word that is frequently used. If you haven't looked up the definition of pratues ~ meekness, I urge you to ; Vine's complete expository dictionary is a good source.I am so grateful to the people at Amazon.com who made and make it possible we may providing reviews because of their beneficialness to us. Thank y'all.
M**E
Great Greek practice, fantastic insights
I have never been familiar with the early church father's writing up to now, and though I bought this volume primarily for the Greek practice, I was also curious to weigh the content of these early writers, especially having heard opinions regarding them having been unfairly excluded from the NT canon.I have just finished the volume for the first time as I write this, and have to give it five stars, as it was well worth the money both for the Greek (which is at times very similar to the NT Koine) and the insight into some of the early prominent church writers.The physical book itself is a sturdy green volume, with attractive Greek font on the left pages, corresponding to the English translation on the right side. Please note there are a very few sections, mostly in the last fifty pages or so, that have no extant Greek, and instead have Latin on the left - or even Arabic, Armenian and Syriac in spots! As stated previously (and by other reviewers), this is great Koine practice for anyone looking for complimentary texts to the GNT and LXX.As far as the content, and whether any of it belongs in the NT, I offer my two cents based on first perusal, though it does not affect the five stars. I have to believe that it is completely correct for all of these texts to have been excluded from the NT, for two reasons. Firstly, the NT is based on eye witness accounts, or those (Mark, Luke etc) that were evidently close to eye witnesses, and as such, none of these texts would belong, as 'second generation' writings or later. Secondly, to me it appears evident that these various texts are not as inspired as the NT canon. I don't say this to disrespect or dishonor any of these writers any more than saying a contemporary christian writer does not belong in the NT - to me, they can at times be as edifying as any other gifted writer in these past two thousand years. However, there seem to be clear indications in each text of a lack of full inspiration (if I may use such a clumsy term).1 Clement, though stylistically reminiscent of scripture to me, appears to believe and validate the pagan legend of the Phoenix in chapter 25, given as an example of resurrection, but told in such a manner as to champion its veracity.Ignatius, though immensely admirable in his fervor and zeal, holds an overly elevated view of the overseer, constantly referring to the position with comments like: "...do everything in Godly harmony, with the bishop in the place of God", or: "as the Lord did nothing without the Father...so you must not do anything without the bishop and the presbyters". Such an excessive and singular view of the overseers position and responsibility is clearly at odds with the Lord's admonition that we are all brethren of one another, and that the Lord Himself is our head (though indeed, those who labor in the word are worthy of a certain special honor).The Didache has some interesting instruction, but also some absurdities, such as "Let every apostle who comes to you be welcomed as if he were the Lord. But he is not to stay for more than one day, unless there is a need, in which case he may stay for another. But if he stays three days, he is a false prophet." Even ignoring the puzzling command to judge the genuineness of an apostle by his length of accommodation, this does not tally with what the Lord Himself said to his disciples when sending them out, telling them not to move from house to house when they entered a city, but to stay in one place. A mere one page later, the text goes on to say, regarding people coming in the name of the Lord: "But he must not stay with you for more than two, or if necessary, three days," adding a full day onto the true prophet accommodation allowance!In another place, the Didache says: "..do not let your fasts coincide with those of the hypocrites. They fast on Monday and Thursday, so you must fast on Wednesday and Friday." I can't agree that early believers were to fast on two specific days of the week instead of at the direction of the Spirit! To be fair, the Didache is also full of many simple, profound commandments, such as "Do not be one who stretches out his hands to receive but withdraws them when it comes to giving", and though I could go on with regards to negative examples, I do not want to stray into irreverence - even if I do not regard these texts to be worthy of the NT, they are (to varying degrees) still very much worthy of our perusal and contemplation. They can arise to splendid heights - Clement's own 'love chapter' - 1 Clement 49, has a pure beauty and inspiration that is more than reminiscent of 1 Corinthians 13, which no doubt influenced it:"Let the one who has love in Christ do that which Christ commands. Who is able to describe the bond of God's love? Who is sufficient to speak of the majesty of its beauty? The height to which love leads up is indescribable! Love joins us to God. Love covers a multitude of sins. Love bears all things, is long suffering in all things. In love there is nothing coarse, nothing haughty. Love has no schism, love is not in rebellion, love does everything in harmony. In love all the elect of God have been made perfect. Without love nothing is pleasing to God. In love God has received us to Himself. Because of the love He had for us, Jesus Christ our Lord gave His blood for us in accordance with the will of God - his flesh for our flesh, His soul for our souls."The Shepherd of Hermas is an intriguing series of visions and interpretations that give much food for thought. My personal impression was (again) that the text is not at an NT level of inspiration, but there are many profound insights contained in it's 100+ chapters, especially (for me) the vision of the twelve mountains. Beyond this, I found many nuggets in the various texts that offered tantalizing glimpses into the mind of some of the early writers and the views of that era in church history.I highly recommend this volume - Michael Holmes and Baker Academic have put together a remarkably fine book in appearance and content!
N**B
Apostolic Fathers
Lovely binding and paper. The introductions to the books are helpful for an amateur like me. I really like the opposite pages style for the Greek and English as it is very helpful for someone with limited Greek like me. The translations read quite naturally and are easy to read. I really like this volume. It has introduced me to these writings and given me interesting material to read. A beautiful introduction to the early Church.
P**2
Great
If you are thinking of going for a degree in theology I would recommend this literature to you. It is a must and will help to give you a head start as you will in your first year as an undergraduate be touching on the apostolic fathers and then in years two and three a more in depth read will be required.
M**L
Great edition and translation
Sound. The best basic intro to ApFrs
A**R
Five Stars
Good service and good product
Y**.
Perfect For Personal Reading!
I am not a scholar, so I cannot say how valuable this book is for academic research. I bought it to learn about the Apostolic Fathers.The English text is extremely readable and includes very informative footnotes that are not overwhelming. The prefaces to each book or writer provide excellent background information for readers who are not familiar with the context of writing.If you can read even a little bit of Greek, the original text is very helpful to find the original word used and its various possible meanings.I didn't feel like I needed to untangle a high-level academic text, but that is was written for readers of different levels of knowledge, and it did it well.The translator is well-esteemed and he revised the work of a very-highly regarded translator.I would recommend this to anyone who is interested in early Christian writings. It provides a great, easy experience of peeking into the thoughts of 1st-2nd century Christians.
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